What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

✅ Why fitness doesn’t have to stop during pregnancy — but should flex with your energy

✅ The difference between Nicole’s two pregnancies — and how movement changed everything

✅ How to return to strength training postpartum (even if you’re sleep-deprived and strapped for time)

✅ Why joining a gym with childcare changed Nicole’s life — and her mindset

✅ The reality of mom guilt, and how building a routine sets a powerful example for your kids

✅ How online training and flexibility lead to long-term consistency

✅ Why saying “no” more often might be the healthiest thing you do

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💡 Why It Matters

Motherhood can derail even the best fitness plans — but it doesn’t have to. Nicole’s story proves that progress over perfection matters most. Whether you’re a new mom or years into parenting, this episode offers a roadmap to move your body, manage your mindset, and reclaim your confidence.

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Ryan Jore 0:15
Hi guys, welcome back to strength stories. Today we have back on. Nicole, Jordan, Nicole, welcome back. Thanks. It’s been so long since you’ve been here. So today we’re definitely getting into more of like fitness. What fitness looks like as a mom, particularly postpartum, and then, well, technically, everything’s postpartum, then as a mom, sure. Yeah. So can you go into again, what was, what was your history of fitness like leading into your first pregnancies?

Nichole Jordan 0:39
So I didn’t have my first baby till I was 29 and I didn’t I worked. I worked out all since high school, off and on, whatever. But I didn’t actually start strength training until I was 26 so it was just basically random classes and whatever running. So I did that before we got married. It was very like simple, nothing, too crazy at home, stuff. And then when I got pregnant with my daughter. So my first pregnancy, I was tanked. I literally couldn’t even walk up a hill. I was just had a really rough first trimester, so I really wanted to continue working out because I got pregnant right after we got married, so I had been working out and I just did nothing. I I just didn’t do anything my whole pregnancy. And I, I kind of regret that that’s actually an

Ryan Jore 1:35
interesting question. First, there’s like, if you had a mom in a similar situation, then what would you do in that situation, if someone just really had really poor energy but still wanted to maintain some level of fitness,

Nichole Jordan 1:46
I would probably just try to have them do it just depends, like, you know, with being nauseous and just like having absolutely zero energy, it’s really hard to move, But, you know, getting out and walking a little bit, trying to have, like, if you want to do some body weight movement, some squats, lunges, just lower body stuff, I would probably advise the most just to keep, like, your legs strong for you know, delivering a baby is kind of important, and to also kind of help keep The back your body engaged as your belly grows, because that can really get really painful with sciatic pain and stuff like that. So I would encourage, you, know, eat a carb, eat some goldfish, and try to move to Eze nausea just 10 minutes a day, spending something not Yeah, don’t have to be what you were doing before. So I mean, kind of like we’ve talked about in the past is like, just saying it’s okay just to do 10 minutes, like, can you do 10 minutes five days a week or four days a week? That’s better than nothing at this point. Well,

Ryan Jore 2:50
it’s like, and even pregnancy or not, what I’ve talked to people in the past is like, even if we are in a very busy season, anything we do right now makes it easier when you start back up. It’s like, your goal right now is to not set a personal best. Your goal is so that when you start back up again, start back up again, when life gets a little less crazy in a few months, for it to just not suck as bad as

Nichole Jordan 3:07
it did before, right? And, I mean, I would advise, if somebody wasn’t experiencing issues in early pregnancy and they had already been training, I would advise them to continue training. I mean, there really shouldn’t be, I mean, besides some minor, very, you know, modifications with not being on the belly and and some things like that, they should be able to continue to train. Now, if somebody had not been training at all, I would not have them do that, obviously, when they found out they were pregnant, but they could still do body weight things and stretching and, you know, that kind of stuff, just to keep moving and mentally stay engaged. I think that’s really the hardest piece. Is just to not feel like you’re failing and you’re like, losing yourself when you get pregnant. So, yeah, yeah, I

Ryan Jore 3:47
always think of like, training is like, so when I did my pregnancy certification again, you’d learn a lot of helpful stuff, but it’s, it’s funny, it almost made pregnancy training simpler, because you realize, like, there’s actually not that much you do differently. You’re just more responsive to changes, right? So it’s like, you know, like stuff is just more likely to pop up that we’re gonna maybe make adjustments for. But I actually have, like, a client right now who’s pregnant again, and honestly, it’s like, we’re not changing that much, like I might do a little bit less intensity, maybe, you know, we don’t go quite as heavy on something, or we cut a little bit of volume, or something like that. But really, it’s like, unless she’s not responding well to something. I’m not changing that much, right? It’s shockingly small, how similar it is, right? Doesn’t mean you just plow through and be an idiot, no? But you don’t also don’t, you know, like, the plan of 10 years ago where it was like, Well, okay, they can never lay on their back. They can never do this. It’s like, Yeah, as long as they’re not experiencing symptoms, they can lay on their back. Like, it’s fine, yeah, we’ll be okay,

Nichole Jordan 4:39
yeah, just not for like, long periods of time, but, yeah, I mean, but, you know, under the supervision, yeah, somebody,

Ryan Jore 4:45
as long as they’re responding, well, yeah, we keep going, yeah. It’s like, you know, initially, like, I was told, like, you can only ever do incline bench press for a pregnant woman. It’s like, some Sure, some women were gonna notice, like, Okay, we can’t do this. But it’s like they’re responding, well,

Nichole Jordan 4:57
well, it’s not going to be for a long. Long periods of time, exactly, yeah, unless sitting

Ryan Jore 5:02
there for five straight minutes, yeah, right, exactly. So how did your second pregnancy differ from the first

Nichole Jordan 5:07
the second pregnancy, I did work out. So I had started moving again at home, and I wanted to feel good before I got pregnant, because I got really sick after my first pregnancy. So I wanted to lose a certain amount of weight before and get my sleep figured out before I got pregnant again, but I was moving, and so I continued doing workouts at home, nothing. I probably could have done more, but I didn’t gain as much weight. I didn’t have as much back pain. I didn’t have as much sciatic pain. I had better, a way better pregnancy. So I learned for my first time that because I because after my first pregnancy, my after my first trimester, I probably could have gone back and it just kind of didn’t do it like, you know, hindsight is 2020, but I really wish I would have, because the recovery was difficult. But after my second pregnancy, staying moving, you know, the last trimester, things got pretty slow, but I was still doing stuff, lunges and stuff like that, like I wanted to be strong because I knew what was coming, and I didn’t want my legs to be weak and things like that. So I and I also didn’t have as much sickness, so it was easier to stay on top of it. But, yeah, it was way better. It went way better, and I kept my nutrition more on track, because I gained 60 pounds with my first pregnancy, granted, I was smaller and only 20 with my second. And just being able to continue moving and making choices and realizing that, yes, I was eating for a second person, but it wasn’t for a whole, you know,

Ryan Jore 6:45
man justification, a whole baseball team, you’re like whatever,

Nichole Jordan 6:51
you know. But it was in the recovery was quicker too afterwards. So it was really amazing to see the difference between the two. And even just like postpartum level depression and that kind of stuff, with staying moving and weird, Endorphins make you feel better, keeping the nutrition in line a little bit more, even though it wasn’t perfect, it wasn’t perfect, it was better. And so I think that’s that also is something that women need to remember, is like, you don’t have to be what you were when you’re weren’t pregnant, but you can’t just quit, yeah? Because quitting makes it way worse. It’s like,

Ryan Jore 7:24
we see this all time and fitness, is that all or nothing mentality? Yeah, one interesting thing said there too is just how much less back pain you had. Because even just normal people, we realize, like the back needs to be loaded at a certain point to be strong enough to deal with your daily stresses and pregnancies. I mean, if anything more than that, because it’s a constant, like that, weight is hanging off of you all day. Yeah, we have some resiliency built up there.

Nichole Jordan 7:47
Oh, yeah, and you get so uncomfortable and you don’t want to move, just want to sit. You don’t even want to sit, because that’s uncomfortable. Yeah, I would say that it wasn’t way overall better experience, and then recovering and getting hormones realigned afterwards. Help? It was better to just Yeah. So let’s

Ryan Jore 8:05
go a little more than into if someone is starting a postpartum plan, let’s say they’re coming from just a general, like average fitness background. What’s one of the first things that you’re looking at changing for them,

Nichole Jordan 8:16
as far as or, like, just,

Ryan Jore 8:20
sorry, I should have said, yeah, yeah, sorry. Let’s say they lifted to the majority of their fitness plan. How are you starting following like, once they’ve been given clearance to start working out again,

Nichole Jordan 8:31
I would probably just just return to the movement patterns they had, but I would probably scale back the weight quite a bit, and they’d probably be irritated with it, and then just build it back up slowly. But, you know, just watching for things like, you know, when you’re breastfeeding and you’re you’re only a couple of months out, or six weeks, or eight weeks, or whatever, from delivery, things are looser, and your joints and your cartilage are loose and things like that. Especially when you’re breastfeeding, you have all these things going on with your body that you just need to be I your body that

Ryan Jore 9:03
you just need to be extra careful because you get, like, your elevated levels of relaxing and stuff. So your tendons

Nichole Jordan 9:09
and ligaments tend to be a little more fragile ish, and it’s true. So after I had my second, I was still working out, but then I wanted to keep going. You know, after that six week when you’re not supposed to, and I kept getting hurt a lot. Like it was just like, everything was just, I don’t even know how to explain it. It was just like everything was like, didn’t feel stable, like jellyfish. And so just realizing you know that you’re gonna have to back off for a while. But if you can always tell people is like, if you can just mentally check that off your list, like it doesn’t even it doesn’t even matter, like if it’s 1/4 of the weight you were doing before, you are gonna feel really good about it. And then you’re just recreating that habit. So when you’re ready to hit it, you’re not starting again. Now we’re nine months out, we’ve done nothing. And then you now you have the mental piece of, I’m a failure, so you. I it’s more about accomplishing something postpartum than just hitting hitting the ground running, at least in my opinion, totally. And

Ryan Jore 10:07
it’s one of the ones that I always I look at again with those elevated levels, relaxing, relaxing. And we know like tendons and ligaments are weaker, so I look at the same way I’m training anyone with tendonitis or any other tendon issues. Like we’re going to do a lot of tempos, we’re going to do a lot of pauses, which is not always exciting, but like you said, it also helps reframe it, because then you know, if your Max was 100 pounds, well, the weights can be lower, but it’s also a new lift, essentially, because we’re doing it with tempo now, so it’s less of a mind fuck there. Of like, the fact that it is going to be lower, it’s like, well, of course it is, because it’s tempo. And then you can stop worrying about, like, yeah, at the same weight that I was pre pregnancy, yeah. So following then someone who had not lifted at all, then how are you looking for their postpartum voyage into a strength training

Nichole Jordan 10:47
it’s actually fairly common. We would just start, like pretty much anyone that was starting. So if you’re not having somebody that’s trying to return to something and they’re starting from scratch, I would just start with a minimal amount, like you’re taking into account a lot of different factors here time, you know, is the, is the mom working? Does, is there child care? Like, what, you know, all of these factors. So a lot of it depends on time and where they’re working out. But really, I would just start with basic movement patterns, three days a week, Max, 30 minutes. Yeah, can we get that done? If we can get that done for four weeks, okay, maybe we add a little bit. But I mean, we’re just, we’re just looking to get the basics started at first well, with really any new client, unless they have a bigger immediate goal, but I would just start them slowly and the time pieces, for me, the biggest roadblock postpartum, because you’re so busy and so tired and you have the baby that is probably gonna need you, or might get sick, or maybe then the night before you only got two hours of sleep, you have all these variables. So it’s like, if you can keep that commitment low and build on that, and then also focus on the nutrition. You have a little bit more control over that. One

Ryan Jore 12:05
of the other things I should have added, probably earlier in this too, is, like, whenever possible, especially right off post pregnancy, I try to have them do at least couple sessions with some sort of pelvic floor. PT, yeah, obviously they can look at things that we can’t look at and assess things. So in general, like, before I’m starting, I’m almost always being like, Okay, do at least one session. Maybe they think you only need one. Only need one. We get rolling, sure, but it’s like, and maybe you need more than that. And that’s fine, yeah, they can assess certain things, and they can also just make sure on things like diastasis and make sure their breathing embracing is correct and stuff. So should cover our bases there and say, like, I always recommend that out the gate, because it’s a couple 100 bucks, but it’s like, at least we know then where we’re starting

Nichole Jordan 12:39
from. Yeah, I like that. That’s a great idea, because most of the time it’s, it will be a problem, and at least up, you know, 12 months postpartum, everything is a little off. Yeah, exactly. It’s and that’s normal,

Ryan Jore 12:52
yeah, it’s just nice to someone that’s has more knowledge in certain things like that we do, yeah, and also just has more legal backing to be checking things like that. We’re not going to check that’s not within our scope

Nichole Jordan 13:02
of, yeah, yeah, absolutely. No. I really like that.

Ryan Jore 13:04
So once someone’s passed that initial, say, year of postpartum phase, they’re back to a little bit more normalized training, but now they do have the additional limitations on their schedule with having children. How do you reframe what fitness looks like for that person to again still be fit while adhering to that

Nichole Jordan 13:20
schedule? Yeah, yeah. So you really want to find a way to have the client detach from their idea of what fitness should look like or what they used to do, because that’s that can be a big roadblock. It’s like, well, I go to the gym at this time. It’s like, No, you don’t do that anymore. Okay, you go to the gym when you can, and maybe your day get your workout gets pushed back a day, and like letting go, just divorcing from that idea that it has to look a certain way, right? So that mindset piece is huge for moms, because in even we can circle over to nutrition, because it’s all tied together with this. But, and I’ll touch back on that, but I would just say, you know, the biggest thing for me was joining a gym, because every time I would try to work out at home, somebody was climbing on me and, you know, it’s cute and stuff like that, but you know what it’s it’s really hard because as a mom, you don’t really feel like you should be doing that in the first place. We all have mom guilt. We think we’re supposed to be with our kids every second, especially when they’re younger, even when they’re getting older, and the time you take for yourself is selfish. There’s other things that need to be done, or whatever. At least, that’s what we’re thinking. I don’t think it’s selfish, but we’re telling that to ourselves, and it’s very common. And you know, the best thing that I did was finally join granite when my son was 18 months old. Took me that long, and I tried, I tried all sorts of different workouts at home, and it never happened, or it happened, it just got interrupted, and it was so frustrating, and they had childcare, and I had never felt guiltier in my entire life. I thought, boy, I’m just, you know, you just, you have this, this just overwhelming feeling of guilt all the time. And so I put him in the childcare. And I’ll never forget, I met this gal at a group fitness class, and she just changed things for me because she had her son in the childcare. And I was like, one day, I was like, gosh, I feel so guilty. And she’s like, why? Yeah, why? And I said, Oh, well, I just, you know, she’s like, they’re having fun in there, and we’re doing what we need to do. And it really helped, you know, like so and I had a lot of moms surrounding me, supporting me, and I could even see this demographic of women who had been there for years. Their kids had already been out of the childcare now they were off in college or whatever, and I would hear these stories and see how good they looked and how how healthy they were and how good they were doing, and realizing they were still present moms exactly and that camaraderie. If I hadn’t had that, I think I probably would have never, never taken that or continued on that step. So, you know, I finding either a coach to help you if you really want to work out at home, you need some kind of accountability, or somebody that cares really we need to be checked in on if you’re working out at a gym, connecting with other people, or a group of people that you know care if you show up or not, and that sort of thing that care about your health, and letting yourself just not be only a mom, and realizing that you’re going to be and so cliche, you’re going to be a better mom if you take time for yourself. It’s so true. It’s, I mean, you just you get isolated. It just depends on what you’re doing. But if you’re working, you’re feeling guilty. You know, if you’re a working mom and your kids at daycare, the last thing that you want to do is go pick them up after work and then take them to the gym daycare and then go work out. I mean, I totally get it, you know. But like I said in the beginning, divorcing from the idea of, oh, I have to work out Monday, Wednesday, Friday, yeah, okay, what if it’s Saturday, Sunday, and then a 20 minute workout on Wednesday. Like it doesn’t have to look any certain way, which goes back to

Ryan Jore 17:04
what we talked about in previous episode, about, like, how nice online training can be. Because, right, if you’re trying to meet with an in person trainer and you have to be there at nine, yeah, there’s not always flexibility in their schedule to put you to a different time. Whereas now when you’re online, it’s like, okay, you have your three days. I’m like, some weeks it’s Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, the next It’s Sunday, Wednesday, Friday, you still got them in. That’s the important thing. But,

Nichole Jordan 17:23
yeah, but letting go of what you think it needs to look like, and just doing what you can, because even if it’s not as much as you want to do, it’s better than doing nothing at all. So again, getting out of the all or nothing mindset. As a mom, it’s imperative or you won’t succeed like you have to just be okay with some things being undone, and also saying no to other things, like maybe you don’t do that play group, because no, we go to the gym, and people may may not like that or whatever, but drawing boundaries as a mom and carving out that time for yourself and Showing your kids that this is what mom does, yeah, and pretty soon that’s normal, and they expected of you, and then you’re showing them that’s what you need to do to take care of yourself, so that they’re not 30 years old and have no idea what to do in their life, because they were never shown because mom did it in secret, or she never made time for herself. They they’re watching. They’re watching everything we do, everything we put in our mouths, every conversation we have, every time we go to the gym, every time we carve out time to do something healthy, or we set a boundary because we’re trying to protect something our health. They’re watching so it’s not selfish and it’s it is easier said. You know, eight or 11 years down the road. You know, I can see that. But when you’re in the midst of just having new baby, you are so overwhelmed, which, again,

Ryan Jore 18:48
I think, is why it is so important. I said to meet other people who are going through similar things, and I was like, okay, like you said, they’re still good moms. They’re doing this. Why can’t I do the same thing?

Nichole Jordan 18:57
Right? Exactly. And that’s that’s just it. It’s that camaraderie. We’re all searching for it. And I always joke that, because I didn’t, I mean, my daughter was almost four when I joined granite, and I was like, here’s all the stay at home moms, because I was a stay at home mom at the time. Like, I didn’t know where you guys were, been alone this whole time. And it’s so true. Like you just you need to connect with that. And you know, some people, it’s not necessarily their thing, but the thing about a big gym like, you know, where we are, is there’s something for everyone. And even if you’re not strength training, at least get in there and start moving. That’s what you know. It doesn’t have to be perfect in the beginning. Maybe in a couple years you’ll get a little more dialed in, but give yourself time. Be patient and just do something to get the mindset.

Ryan Jore 19:43
And it’s, I think people eyes again, like social media gets very like black and white on a lot of things. Again, in general, yes, I believe at some point you need to be doing heavy strength training. But the cool thing is, as a very beginner, yoga is gonna get you stronger. A spin class is gonna make your legs stronger. Like, you don’t need that much right away to get. I would still bias to saying, if you can do the strength training at the beginning as well, but initially, it’s like, if, if yoga is all you can do. And not to say, I’m not trying to criticize these modalities, but it’s like, if that’s all that works for your schedule, it’s still getting you better than you were before. Exactly when you down the road start adding, you’re still going to be starting from a better place than you would have

Nichole Jordan 20:17
started, right? Or even, I have people that just they want to work out at home, and that’s fine, and all they have is resistance bands, and we just work with it, yeah, and it’s okay. There’s nothing that’s okay to start like that. Maybe we have to add some stuff down the road, and you cap out, but you’re doing nothing, and now you’re doing something. So get yourself in the mindset, and then amp up intensity when you’re ready. And you may not be ready right away, but just do something for

Ryan Jore 20:42
yourself. Like, I have a lady who I’ve trained since COVID Now, so about five years she literally has a pair of 50 pound or, like, adjustable dumbbells to go up to 50 pounds a chin up bar and, like, two bands. And we’ve trained for five years with that. Like, it doesn’t have to be that crazy. And honestly, it’s like, even less than like, again, most women initially can’t do a good push up. So it’s like, we don’t need any equipment for you to start doing push ups, right? Yeah. It’s like, if you’re knocking out 1020, full push ups, you’re stronger than most women already. It’s like, obviously the lower body a little bit more, yeah, equipment usually involved. But like, again, we can get really strong lower bodies with just body weight, or, like, I use, like, towel isometrics. Or, there’s so many things we can do. It’s there’s really not as many limitations. A lot of people want to think assuming that they can they can figure out what that starting point is. To me, it’s like, if they can figure the starting point, the rest of it’s a lot easier than you think

Nichole Jordan 21:28
it’s going to be. Well, and then again, you know, a coach helps you, helps you know that this is enough and I am doing the right thing. So if you do choose to be at home, knowing what you’re doing is intentional and not just something random because you won’t do it,

Ryan Jore 21:42
yeah? Well, and especially, like, the coaching comes in, especially with the postpartum thing, of like, making sure that you’re doing something that’s not beyond your capabilities right now, and knowing, like, what’s considered Okay, and what’s like, okay, maybe we need to pull this exercise out for a while, and you’re not ready for

Nichole Jordan 21:56
that, or right? Well, and the other thing I just tell moms focus on is things that they can control. You know, it’s like, so you couldn’t make your workouts last week because, you know, little Benny’s been sick all week, throwing up, and then Charlie got sick, and then now the third kid is sick, and and I get it, okay, you can control your nutrition. So we focus on, what can you control? And this, this was the win this week. And it’s not going to be perfect. And as your kids get older, you will have more time for yourself. It will look different, but it’s never going to be something that you don’t have to demand. You always have to demand it and set the boundary and say, This is my time. And like I said, You’re it’s imperative to teach them anyways, it’s, it’s essential for their

Ryan Jore 22:37
health. At a the conference I was just at Williams, they talked about was, they showed studies on how the people that have set eating times do better nutritionally than people who don’t. And it’s, I think, if you fall in that same thing with the fitness thing, of like, again, your schedules are gonna change each week. It says you can’t be like, too rigid. But same point if you have an expectation that, say, Wednesday at nine o’clock, so I get my workout, and you’re so much more likely to get it, versus looking at Sunday be like, well, at some point I’ll get in three workouts this week. Like, you want to have at least some semblance of a plan we can always deviate from. We need that start of a plan

Nichole Jordan 23:05
well. And as humans, we want we want that we do like we need that. And that’s why the I believe the online coaching is so effective, because you open up your app tells you exactly what you need to do, you know, what’s expected of you. And it sounds really silly, but it’s really effective. It really is. I mean, sure, not for everyone, but for the most part, it’s like, I know this is on my checklist. This was designed for me, and I’m going to get it done. And I it really blows me away, the consistency that people can have on their own, even at home. Yeah, it’s pretty cool. Well, again, especially, it’s

Ryan Jore 23:36
cool as like, once they then they get a little more clean, a little more it’s like, you just start building on these things, like one of the sad things, and I just got, like, I just got, like, a dip bar for my gym. You realize, like, your home gym is never done. That’s the shitty thing. That’s also kind of fun, because there’s always like, well, you know, kind of both I currently have, here’s a new toy, and

Nichole Jordan 23:51
you can bring it in, yeah, yeah. And it can, it can be more interesting. Or you can do a lot like, and

Ryan Jore 23:55
then you become a coach, and it’s a tax write off. Awesome. So before we wrap up today, were there any things that we didn’t address that you wanted to go over real

Nichole Jordan 24:06
quick as far as motherhood and just aligning your health? I would say the biggest thing that I have to talk to my clients about, we’re literally constantly talking about this, is drawing boundaries. It’s it’s essential if you’re going to change your health like and what I mean by that is, I know people hear that and they think, oh, a dysfunctional relative. That’s not just what I’m talking about. It’s things like, No grandma, we’re not going to come over this weekend and we’re not going to flood our schedule with things, not because we don’t love you, but because XYZ, we have this planned, or mom needs to go to the gym, and then we need to go to Costco and get healthy groceries so that we don’t have to go out to fast food again. No, we don’t. We can’t join for that dinner. Or we can join, but we’re going to bring our own side or food or whatever. Like doing things that make people uncomfortable. If you want to get healthy, you will be uncomfortable and. It’s going to be, it’s it’s hard. And so a lot of the wall that, especially moms come up against with activities, and all of the influence that we have from things we’re participating in, and, you know, wanting to fit in, or whatever, you know, you name it, you will stand out, yeah, and you will make people uncomfortable, and so if you can’t embrace that, you probably will not get your health to the point that you’re

Ryan Jore 25:27
wanting to exactly like. No one who’s hitting all their goals says yes to everything,

Nichole Jordan 25:30
absolutely not like and in fact, they say no quite a bit. That doesn’t

Ryan Jore 25:35
mean being a jerk, they said, but it’s, it’s picking and choosing and not just saying yes to every little thing, like making worth it’s no different than your nutrition. Like, we, like, sometimes we’re gonna have indulgences, but like, if I’m gonna indulge in something, I want to make sure it’s worth it. I’m not just having some random sheet cake from Costco or something at an office party. Like, yeah. Like, unless that’s your thing, like, that’s your food, cool. But like, everything is all about, like, is it worth it or not?

Nichole Jordan 25:57
Right? Yeah, and it’s, it’s uncomfortable. So, you know, as a mom, a young mom, too, it’s you’re already in a lot of situations that make you uncomfortable. So if you’re feeling that, then that’s normal, and people share that. It’s,

Ryan Jore 26:10
it’s hard, it’s hard work. Where can people find you? On

Nichole Jordan 26:13
social media. Nicole Jordan coaching on Instagram and Facebook.

Ryan Jore 26:17
Awesome. Thanks for coming on.