In this lively episode of the Granite Fitness Podcast, host and Granite Fitness trainer Ryan Jore sits down with long-time Granite members Jennifer, Kelly, and Kara to discuss their fitness journeys, the power of group workouts, and how friendship fuels their strength training goals. 🌟

Tune in as these inspiring women share:

• Their Fitness Beginnings 🏋️‍♀️: From treadmill routines to discovering the world of weights.
• Breaking Stereotypes 🚫💪: Why lifting isn’t just for men and how women are taking over the weight floor!
• The Power of Community 🤗: How accountability, laughter, and shared goals make group classes so special.
• Personal Wins and Goals 🥇: Achieving first pull-ups, mastering deadlifts, and setting sights on handstands.
• Favorite Workouts & Music Debates 🎶: 90s hip hop or alternative for workout jams?

Whether you’re looking to start strength training or want a community to cheer you on, this episode is packed with motivation and laughs. 🎧✨ Grab your headphones and get inspired to join a fitness journey where friendships come first and gains follow! 🎉

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Ryan Jore 0:12
Welcome back to the Granite Fitness Podcast this week we have on long time granite members, Jennifer, Kelly and Kara. Welcome to the show, guys.

Guests 0:18
Thank you.

Ryan Jore 0:20
So before we get into any serious questions, just have you guys go one by one. Kind of it’s like, how long you’ve or kind of describe your fitness journey and how long you’ve been a granite member.

Jennifer 0:28
Well, I’ve been we moved here probably eight, nine years ago, and I started lifting on my own. Peeked into some of the classes. So I was on and off on my own. Lifting, not so much. I’d do it for a couple weeks, and I get sick of it. And then I saw your class, Ryan, and then all of a sudden the spot opened up, and I knew Kara, I knew about Kelly, and so I was like, you know, this is a good time. Let’s do it. And so I’ve done it ever since. So I guess nine years, no, not nine years. Five with you.

Ryan Jore 0:58
We started in 2021 I think, okay, it’s like three and a half. Yeah, that’s fast. It feels like five. Kelly?

Kelly 1:05
And me, I started Granite in the beginning when it first started opening, and then kind of did a little bit of treadmill, not much with the weights in there. Then probably the last five years, I got a little bit more into going and doing the classes and doing high impact classes and not seeing the results that I wanted. And then one day, Kara told me that they were starting a new class. And I thought, Okay, well, I don’t know. Maybe I don’t know if I’m gonna do this. And she walked out the room, she’s like, well, think about it. And I was like, this is one thing I can do to change, you know, everything. Get out of my comfort zone. So here we are,

Ryan Jore 1:38
like, doing a podcast, getting out of your comfort zone,

Kelly 1:40
out of my comfort zone again, but it was a good thing.

Ryan Jore 1:43
Yeah, that’s awesome.

Kara 1:44
My turn? Okay, I started at Granite taking group fitness classes, maybe, like, a year after it opened. I can’t even remember exactly, and then about 10 years ago, I ended up starting teaching classes at Granite. And it wasn’t until just a few years ago, everyone seemed to start getting into weight lifting, especially like the women at the gym. And so once I heard about Ryan’s class, I was all over it, and then trying to bring more people in lift more weights. Yeah, yeah.

Ryan Jore 2:11
Well, that actually was my first question. So is lifting heavy weights just for men?

Kara 2:15
No, absolutely not anymore. Yeah. If you look out on the floor at Granite like, especially in the morning, it is, what do you I mean, what percent women?

Jennifer 2:23
Yeah, and I think the stereotype of you getting bulky and big is, people would say, No, you don’t, but it’s been proven. And girls just are muscular and healthy.

Kelly 2:32
And when you can start seeing the results, and you see them on the people out there, and then we see them on ourselves over the years, you know, it’s working, right?

Ryan Jore 2:40
That’s, yeah, I think back to when I was starting training, like, so training Cindy, like, almost always it’d be me and her and maybe two girls on that side of the, like, weight room floor. And now, yeah, you said it’s almost entirely women at this point, it’s been pretty cool change.

Kara 2:52
Which is awesome, because then it’s welcoming to new people that come in. You know, they’re like, oh, it’s not just a bunch of guys right floor.

Ryan Jore 2:58
So what kind of differences Have you guys noticed from like, doing more strength training than, like, lifting heavier?

Jennifer 3:02
Well, I know for me…

Ryan Jore 3:04
yeah, Liz would know that answer.

Jennifer 3:06
Oh, yeah. Well, so shout out to my mom, which I know she won’t be listening. So I can say this story, she has always had just a flat butt. She’s never really worked out. And my husband was, he’s like, basically he thought I did too, you know, I was like, Well, I’m gonna start Ryan’s class, and I think that I just don’t want my butt to melt into the back of my legs. That was my main that was really, honestly my number one goal, and and also to learn the right technique. And so my husband’s like, I you know your your body is what your body is. You’re not going to change it. I said, Well, I think you’re wrong, and that’s a challenge. And I think that. I said, I’ve never lifted consistently, really any part of my body. And I said, once I have, if I’ve done my biceps, I’ll notice after a couple months, a difference. I said, so why would it be any different with your backside? And so I’ve noticed a difference. I am 51 it’s not what it used to be. But I think for me, I’ve noticed, and I just the strength in general, and I’m not hurting myself when I’m lifting. So that was kind of…

Ryan Jore 4:09
You can move couches now

Jennifer 4:10
I can move couches with my hips, and so, yeah, that’s for me.

Kelly 4:15
For me, I’ve noticed a lot of differences, just things that I never thought I would be able to do I can now do in that class, like, pull up, chin up. Never thought I’d be able to do that. So it’s good. It’s been a good motivator to want to do more and just lifting heavier again, like knowing how to do it the right way, and feeling good about what you’re doing, instead of feeling like, I’m like, Am I doing this wrong? And having a group of people there kind of watching you too, and telling you what’s going on has been really helpful, but it’s nice to see the change, and when you see the change, then you want to keep going, because you want to see more of a change. Yeah,

Kara 4:46
so I forgot the question,

Ryan Jore 4:50
What kind of differences have you noticed since you started strength training?

Kara 4:53
Oh, probably just, yeah, more defined muscles. I was doing a lot of group fitness classes that were just a lot more cardio and a lot more hit classes, and you just notice you’re not lifting really heavy, because things are moving so quickly. You’re lifting but not lifting heavy, and so I guess just more defined. Yeah.

Ryan Jore 5:10
That’s cool. So all of you, like said, have mentioned, I’ve been doing group exercise for quite a while. What kind of a difference do you notice from having a group versus, say, training on your own?

Kelly 5:18
Accountability?

Jennifer 5:18
It’s huge.

Kelly 5:20
Yeah, having a group, group of girls there that you know coming in, they look forward to seeing you. Look forward to seeing them, and you challenge each other. And I think that’s great, because if it was just, oh, I’m gonna go the gym today, no one’s no one’s there, being like, where are you? What’s going on? Where? If we’re not there, one of us will text each other, like, where are you at?

Ryan Jore 5:37
Well, literally, every day, if it’s like, 9:05, and someone’s not there, it’s like, “Oh is Kara not here today?” and it’s like “no, she’s coming!”

Kelly 5:38
Yeah, watching where everyone is at

Kara 5:44
it’s become this really cool friendship group, and so no one wants to leave.

Kelly 5:48
Right! You have that friendship. And then you see all this, you know, things that you’re doing, accomplishing, and it’s just, why would you stop? That’s kind of where the three of us are at, like, why would we ever stop? We love what we’re doing.

Jennifer 5:58
We lift weights and we get counseling session into the nine o’clock class at this point.

Kelly 6:04
Right!

Kara 6:05
Right.

Ryan Jore 6:06
Awesome. So, Jennifer, a question for you, why is 90s hip hop the best music to listen to?

Everyone 6:11
Laughs

Jennifer 6:12
It has a great beat. The lyrics are amazing, super appropriate, I don’t know. Just brings you back to the day. I guess I don’t know. but you could throw on some Lionel Richie or some Neil Diamond

Kara 6:27
yacht rock,

Jennifer 6:28
some yacht rock.

Ryan Jore 6:29
Is it Neil Diamond? Was that the one? Was that the really slow one? Or?

Jennifer 6:32
Yeah, it wasn’t slow.

Kelly 6:33
What’s the name of that?

Jennifer 6:34
Hail holy.

Kelly 6:37
The best song to sing, too. It’s awesome.

Ryan Jore 6:41
Kara, why would you say 90s alternative is actually the best music to listen to?

Kara 6:44
Oh yes, it just pushes you. You gotta have the right song on. If you’re really like trying to just muster the energy to finish something or just to push through, you gotta have music that speaks to you. It makes you want to push

Ryan Jore 6:57
So if we have classic rock coming on, and that is not the music to push

Jennifer 7:00
Or Country

Everyone 7:00
Laughs

Jennifer 7:02
We have to get our country to put it on Country.

Ryan Jore 7:07
So who, between you two, who is the real hip thrust champion of the 90s?

Kara 7:12
Jennifer

Jennifer 7:12
Well, I am, but nobody knows it. They always think it’s Kara.

Kara 7:16
Got to keep it on the down low, though. Don’t you? I mean, look at her butt, man!

Ryan Jore 7:19
I feel like you’re leaving the board open now, like it’s been open for a while, and it’s almost like and it’s almost like you’re afraid to still write your name. No, it’s still empty now.

Jennifer 7:26
No, I saw them. Somebody must have…

Ryan Jore 7:28
Well, we messed with it the one time. Then I feel like you’re almost afraid to put it up there.

Jennifer 7:31
Oh, I think I’m waiting for the actual board. Not that just piece of crap… chipped…

Ryan Jore 7:35
Thanks. Kristy, yeah,

Jennifer 7:37
little board. That’s like a 12 x 12. Oh, yeah, and hip thrust.

Ryan Jore 7:44
It’s not, it’s not like prestigious of enough of a spot to put on it.

Jennifer 7:47
There’s no frame on it. It doesn’t match. It’s broken

Kelly 7:47
If you accomplish something, you want proof like you want it to look good, right?

Jennifer 7:55
So I’m just waiting.

Ryan Jore 7:56
Okay, we’ll have to put that on the list for the remodel. For all of you, then, what is your favorite exercise to train?

Kara 8:03
I probably say for me, bench. I like bench.

Kelly 8:05
Bench pressing.

Jennifer 8:06
Well, I like some deadlifts. Then hip thrusts. I just like dead lifts. I don’t know I feel because it might get sore from the hip thrust, which I know from you, doesn’t matter if you’re sore or not. It’s still doing something I don’t know. I just like dead lifts. I like deadlifts and hip thrusts. I guess.

Kara 8:24
Lat pull down, probably lower body stuff is my least favorite. I know I have to do it.

Ryan Jore 8:30
Lat pull down. That pull down, not even chin ups, but a straight up lat pull

Kara 8:34
Not chin ups! Lat pull down.

Ryan Jore 8:37
That’s awesome. What is your like main focus? Or what are you really focusing on for the next year? As far as far as Do you have a strength or that you’re looking at?

Jennifer 8:43
Well, I know with I just had shoulder surgery back in January, so I’m trying to get back to doing a normal push up, still working on that pull up. Still haven’t been able to pull up. Well, I’ve done it, but it didn’t count.

Ryan Jore 8:57
We have kind of high standards

Jennifer 8:59
Anyway, so that’s my goal.

Kelly 9:01
Mine is still from last year with my deadlift and bench, bench, I’m feeling like I’m getting there. Dead lift is in my mind, which I need to get it out of my mind.

Ryan Jore 9:09
I didn’t tell you, but we are testing on Friday.

Kelly 9:12
Great.

Ryan Jore 9:13
That’s why yesterday’s session was so easy.

Kara 9:15
I knew there was a reason, trickery. I’ve been working on a handstand and then eventually, hopefully, walking handstand.

Ryan Jore 9:21
Yeah, that’s moving along,

Kara 9:22
yep. Yeah.

Ryan Jore 9:23
And I told Aaron you’re gonna start working on the toes to bar, like he’s doing, yeah. I feel like you and him and Jesse somehow are just simultaneously all changing. I guess Jesse’s not doing the toes to bar, but you guys are all like, kind of chasing similar things right now.

Jennifer 9:35
You want to hit them in a way, bar with your toes? Is that what you’re trying to do?

Kara 9:38
Aaron’s doing that. So I guess that’s my name.

Ryan Jore 9:40
We’ve been doing hanging, like raises, so it’s like the natural progression. Kelly loves those too.

Kelly 9:45
Not my favorite.

Ryan Jore 9:46
So on the opposite side, then, what’s your least favorite exercise to train? Or body part?

Kara 9:51
Lower body.

Ryan Jore 9:52
Just in general?

Kara 9:53
Yes, lunges. Lunges are hard.

Ryan Jore 9:56
We get a lot of lunges

Kara 9:57
and they’re good. I know they’re good for me. That’s why I do them.

Kelly 10:00
Probably lunges is my thing too. I haven’t done it for a while, but that’s probably one of my… Well, I guess I did with the bar the single leg, yeah,

Ryan Jore 10:07
yeah, it’s a lot of fun.

Kelly 10:09
I know they’re good for you, but they’re not enjoyable.

Jennifer 10:11
Exactly. I’d say lunges also. That’s why I’m faking my injury in my leg.

Everyone 10:18
Laughs

Jennifer 10:19
Yeah, that trick keeps acting up every Friday.

Kelly 10:23
Every time.

Jennifer 10:25
Yeah, I think I like it all really, honestly, but I just, I think the lunges are just because they’re, they’re hard.

Ryan Jore 10:31
Yeah. Well, knowing that you finished one side and like, you’ve got to match that now on the other side and you’re already kind of tired.

Kara 10:36
That’s true. Any single leg stuff is kind of challenging, just mentally challenging, too.

Ryan Jore 10:40
Yeah. So if someone were trying to join the nine o’clock class, what kind of standards are you guys expecting for someone who’s gonna join?

Jennifer 10:46
Keep tight lips. You don’t….

Kara 10:48
What’s said in the vault stays in the vault!

Kelly 10:51
That’s our logo. Yeah, that’s what we go by.

Kara 10:54
Not uptight

Kelly 10:54
Yeah, just easy going.

Jennifer 10:57
Right.

Ryan Jore 10:58
Like, barely any standards. Like, it’s pretty easy.

Jennifer 11:00
None that we can say on here… Gotta stay PG!

Everyone 11:03
Laughs

Ryan Jore 11:05
So if someone wasn’t strength training, where would you tell them to start or what would you tell them to focus on?

Kara 11:10
At least have someone a partner. If you’re not going to find a trainer, at least find someone that you can visit with while you’re doing it, and that you hold each other accountable trying to do it on your own, and especially starting out, I think, is just overwhelming and gets boring.

Jennifer 11:23
And I would say, consistency. I think for sure. Sometimes I knew when I trained by myself, I would start out just guns blazing for, you know, two or three weeks, and then I would be sick of it, and then I wouldn’t do it for months, like six months, I wouldn’t do it so and I just kind of burnt myself out. I’d say, you just kind of go into it, and you don’t, you know, I think if you go into it, you know, you’re, you’re doing your training, you’re doing your diet, you’re doing your cardio, then you’re, you’re just like, oh my gosh, this is, this is a lot. I think you just kind of ease into it. And that’s what I would say now.

Kelly 11:54
Just having a program, I guess, instead of, I feel like in the past, I’d be like, Oh, I’m gonna go over there and do some curls, or I’m gonna go over here and do this. Like it was never really like, what am I supposed to do? It’s like, oh, that machine looks good. Machine looks good, or that one’s open, you know, just having some consistency that way too. I’m not just doing whatever.

Ryan Jore 11:54
So since we’ve been talking a lot about cottage cheese last week, what’s your favorite cottage cheese recipe?

Kelly 12:14
I keep buying cottage cheese, and I keep having to throw it out because it expires. Bring it to class. I know I keep buying because I’m like, No, I’m gonna start doing this. So I’ve done use it a few times, and I keep seeing the one with the rotisserie chicken, cottage cheese, some buffalo sauce, and just like, put it in the microwave.

Kara 12:32
I did that yesterday. That was my lunch.

Kelly 12:33
Eat it with carrots… Okay, yep, that’s what I’m gonna do next.

Jennifer 12:37
I think that pita, or the pita one that you…

Kara 12:39
The flatbread?

Jennifer 12:40
Yeah, the flatbread looks good.

Ryan Jore 12:41
I’ve made that one so many times. It’s so easy.

Kara 12:43
It’s good, yeah. And I made it into, like, a pizza with pizza sauce and turkey pepperoni.

Jennifer 12:47
Yeah, mine’s super salt and pepper on cottage cheese.

Ryan Jore 12:55
I need to add to it because, like, berries or something, you like the sweet.

Kara 13:00
I can’t do that. I can’t do the sweet. I like the savory? Yeah, I’ve been doing a pizza bowl too. Just with, yeah, just with pizza sauce, cottage cheese, chicken, pepperoni,

Jennifer 13:09
Everything Bagel, that’s good. You had that?

Ryan Jore 13:12
Which one?

Jennifer 13:12
Everything, Bagel seasoning. I’ll put that in my cottage cheese sometimes. Yeah, it’s good.

Ryan Jore 13:16
See, I’d never even started doing savory cottage cheese until, I think, like, when people start doing the wraps like I’d never, I mean, obviously, like lasagna or something, but never thought to, like, actually make that. It’s like “It was really freaking good”

Kara 13:25
Even with my husband too. I’ve been doing like, I’ve been blending the cottage cheese up and just putting the Ranch seasoning in it, so it’s a healthier ranch for dip.

Kelly 13:34
I think I need to do that to start blending it up so it’s the texture is a little better.

Ryan Jore 13:39
What is one category you think we should add for trivia for next year?

Kara 13:43
I like the one we already talked about

Ryan Jore 13:46
We have a list of that.

Kara 13:47
Oh, good. Okay, um,

Ryan Jore 13:49
Which actually, I just realized the Paris one maybe needs to go in there, but, or the Eiffel Tower or whatever from the other day

Kara 13:53
I think I missed that.

Kelly 13:54
Yeah

Ryan Jore 13:55
that’ll probably be an off-air discussion. It’s a Laura Lee thing. Shocker.

Jennifer 14:01
Laura Lee category, because she’s…

Ryan Jore 14:03
she might just have her own category.

Jennifer 14:04
…got a lot of she got a lot of info.

Ryan Jore 14:07
I feel like she comes in with the story every day.

Jennifer 14:09
Yeah, and they’re just like, for me, even on my way, oh yes, she shocks me. I see this was good.

Ryan Jore 14:17
You’re not easily offended. That’s why she’s allowed to be in the 90s, right? Yes, exactly. Not easily offended, right? Yeah. I feel like Maggy could almost have her own category at this point too, but

Kara 14:25
yes, possibly.

Ryan Jore 14:45
How’d you guys say your group has evolved outside of the class?

Jennifer 14:41
Well, I think we’re great friends, and I say we, our friendship comes first, then it’s strength training. If there was not friends, sorry, Ryan, but I probably quit the class. I really would. Is that is such a

Ryan Jore 14:48
Chemistry important

Kara 14:49
yeah

Kelly 14:50
yeah.

Jennifer 14:50
And we just come, we look forward to it’s like you’re seeing your friends. And when you get older, you always have these plans, let’s go do this. And we never do it, but so we’re with each other three days a week. I mean, that’s, that’s more than some like, really close friends

Kelly 15:14
And we’re getting together for coffee.

Jennifer 15:15
Yeah, we go to coffee. We go to dinners. We will we’re supposed to go on a girls trip. We just can’t figure it out where you want to go. So, yeah, I just think that it’s, it’s really, is huge, and it really keeps us in the people that leave that really, they’re younger, and it’s, you know, a financial thing for them, and we could not have afforded it when we were there that age, but they had a really hard time, and they still do. We’ll see them out, and they’ll look at us in the in the world

Kelly 15:39
We’re all sad, it’s like a breakup that you don’t want to,

Jennifer 15:44
right? So, and I think when you have trainers that come in, they’ve got to, I think they, they see us talking, but we can also multitask. We can we talk, we lift, we stop talking when we need to lift for the most part. And I think we, we just, it’s, I don’t know,

Kelly 16:00
I think which is a good combination. I mean, we’re getting done what we need to get done, but we’re having fun doing right? And that makes you want to come back and do it. Then exactly

Jennifer 16:07
No, at Granite, all the, all the girls that I’ve met, like I grew up here and I moved away for 20 some years, came back and the friends in high school, they’re they’re busy, and we want to say, we go out, but we don’t like I’ll go to even the group classes when I first started. And those friends will go out to coffee, even with them. Those are girls that you just see every day. I mean, you see them five days a week, whether it’s the lifting or the group training. And you sit and you’re there 15 minutes for class, and you’re talking, you’re staying after, you’re catching up on your kids. You know what’s going on with their families, with their husbands, the kids, their life, and so that just really, we never make appointments around our class times.

Kara 16:48
No, we don’t want to miss out.

Jennifer 16:50
No doctors appointment. Oh, I’m sorry. I’m gonna have to wait a month. I can’t make that because you can’t get in. I can’t go at 9:30 or 10:30 so it really is, I think, and I think that is is universal for all the women there.

Kara 17:02
It’s a community for sure

Jennifer 17:02
For sure. Yeah

Kelly 17:04
yeah.

Ryan Jore 17:04
There’s reason that, like most of my group exercise people have been coming for quite a period of time, because the same thing, it’s like, they get in with their group and like, it is fun, like you guys do the eight o’clock classroom time or other classes, but for the most part, like you’re with your group three times a week, every single week.

Kelly 17:17
And it does, it pushes us. Because if I was on the floor doing what I’m doing now, I wouldn’t do it. I wouldn’t know how to do I wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it.

Jennifer 17:25
That’s good enough.

Kelly 17:26
Yeah, I wouldn’t do if it was like, eight to, you know, whatever, 12 reps, whatever. And I’m like, oh, okay, I think good at eight. Like, I feel like we cheer each other on, like, you want to do good because you’re in there, and you’re like, I have this one hour to just get done what I need to get done.

Ryan Jore 17:39
Whenever I explained to people too, it’s like especially when you’re sharing a beginner, like you’re like, you’re like, 250 pounds, I could never lift up. Then you see, like, oh, so and so lifted. And then there’s a person and another person, like, okay, like, I can do this same thing with, like, chin ups. Like, you can never do a chin up. But then you see 10 other ladies do it. You’re like, Okay, this is, if they can do it, I can do it.

Kelly 17:53
Right. It’s do a those are the things that are doable that if we were not in that class, me, I would not even attempt

Kara 17:59
Right.

Kelly 18:00
Like, just wouldn’t attempt it,

Jennifer 18:01
I think to maybe to a point, but I don’t think we would want to enjoy it, and I don’t think we would long term. I think I would probably quit, right? I just know myself, sorry, Ryan, I’m a very social person, yeah, and that is a highly motivated motivation for me. I just because you go home and my kids are empty nesters, and you go home and can only talk to my husband so much, I love him, and he doesn’t want to talk to me this much because I’m a talker. So I just, I don’t know, I just think, I think you’d still do it, but you wouldn’t, you wouldn’t have as much fun.

Kara 18:32
Yeah, I don’t think you’d see results. Like, right, if you’re doing it on your own, either, right?

Ryan Jore 18:36
No, for sure. Like, ever since I switched to doing more classes, like, people get way better results, and they said, part of it is that accountability, and part it’s just, you just work that extra 5% harder

Kelly 18:44
Well, and people see, and it’s like, what’s going on in that classroom? But it’s like, before I was in there, I didn’t even know what that classroom, you know, was about. And now people are like, oh, I want to know what’s going on in there, because they see us having fun, and they see that we have results.

Ryan Jore 18:56
And it’s like, like, “am I cool enough to join the 9:00 AM classroom?”

Jennifer 18:59
You had one, I think, when I first started going there. And I think you just had the one class, and it would just be there. And then, then we, then you added our class, right? And now, what do you have?

Ryan Jore 19:09
Six total. Just kept adding

Jennifer 19:10
Yeah, so I think word of mouth is big. Well, we all… you invited us

Yeah, we’ve been taking classes together for years, right? And I don’t think I did class, but we weren’t, I would say friends, friends like acquaintances, where you can talk for a few minutes before and after class, but yeah, it wasn’t until we got into the group together that we really formed a friendship.

Kelly 19:29
But you also picked people that you probably would want to do a class with.

Kara 19:38
Yeah. I mean, that’s exactly who I would want it. Yeah.

Ryan Jore 19:40
That’s also I like, say, heavy strength training is that you have to rest a couple minutes between sets. You can actually have time to do those real conversations. It’s not, like, again, not that you can’t have conversations you’re lifting otherwise, but if you’re always going, going, going, it’s hard to, like, keep a real conversation going.

Kelly 19:52
Yeah, it’s been, it’s been a lot of fun.

Jennifer 19:54
There’s a lot of hands in there

Ryan Jore 19:55
it is always fun to be when I have someone coming to one of the art class for my. When they get to do their first nine in class, okay, it’s gonna be a little different. Same thing. When they get through their first class, like, Pat and Sue, it’s like, okay, like, they just always have like, oh my god, that lady’s hilarious.

Kara 20:08
I think it’s cool how different the groups are, though. Yeah. I mean, ours being the coolest, yeah, of course, yeah.

Ryan Jore 20:14
I like all my groups equally

Jennifer 20:14
Whatever. Ryan, why are your fingers crossed when you said that?

Ryan Jore 20:20
Awesome. Thanks, ladies.