In this episode of the Last Diet Podcast, Dr. Jordan and Dr. Williams take on five of the biggest myths surrounding weight loss. From outdated nutrition guidelines to the truth about exercise and fat loss, they break down the misconceptions that keep people from reaching their health goals.

In this episode, you’ll learn about:

🔹 The Truth About Carbs – Are all carbohydrates really the same? Why the food pyramid failed and how different types of carbs affect your body.

🔹 Fat Doesn’t Make You Fat – How the low-fat craze led to increased obesity and why healthy fats are crucial for brain function, energy, and overall wellness.

🔹 Spot Reduction is a Lie – Can you target belly fat with crunches? Dr. Williams explains why fat loss doesn’t work that way.

🔹 Exercise vs. Diet for Weight Loss – Can you outwork a bad diet? The surprising reality of how exercise impacts weight loss compared to nutrition.

🔹 Willpower Won’t Keep You on Track – Why successful weight loss isn’t about deprivation, but about creating a sustainable and enjoyable lifestyle.

If you’ve ever felt frustrated by conflicting weight loss advice, this episode will help you cut through the noise and understand what really works for long-term health.

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Dr. Jordan 0:08
Welcome back here with Billings Last Diet, I’m Dr Jordan, and with Dr Williams, we’re going to talk about five major myths that are common when we’re talking about weight loss, right? And so we’re going to try and debunk those for you and get a little bit more information try and educate what healthy weight loss actually looks like and and why it’s important to be educated while you’re losing weight.

Dr. Williams 0:29
Sounds great.

Dr. Jordan 0:30
Yeah. So just a little introduction. We’re with Billings Last Diet, right? And how long we’ve been around Billings Last Diet

Dr. Williams 0:36
we’re 15 years now, with Billings Last Diet.

Dr. Jordan 0:39
So in the 15 years Dr Williams, what have you learned about weight loss?

Dr. Williams 0:45
There’s there’s a lot of misconceptions about weight loss that a lot of people have some ideas of how weight loss works, and then they have a lot of misperceptions about weight loss. And so a lot of people will try to implement what they think is right, and they don’t get the right results. So I think it’s important for us to talk about some of those misperceptions, or those myths about weight loss.

Dr. Jordan 1:06
So in 15 years, I’m a little younger than you, so I might not remember all these fads, but what fad diets have you seen in those 15 years that have come and gone, that people maybe, you know, they think back and said, Oh, that really worked for me, but it really it wasn’t the best option for them. Are there any that come to mind?

Dr. Williams 1:23
Oh, there’s, there are lots of them. There was the onion soup diet. There’s been the peanut butter diet. There’s been just a whole bunch that were not based on science. The problem is, in my view, the American government, United States government, also got involved in the fad source, and they came out with and this is Myth number one. And Myth number one is that all carbs are created equal. And so what happened was in the early 90s, it actually was introduced in 1992 they introduced the food pyramid. And it was actually developed in Sweden in the 70s, and then in 1992 the United States government said, let’s adopt this and introduce it to people to teach people to eat. Right?

Dr. Jordan 2:09
So real quick, let’s review a food pyramid. In case some of the listeners don’t quite remember what the food pyramid looks like, So walk me through it.

Dr. Williams 2:16
So the food pyramid is a pyramid at the base was carbohydrates, in the middle portion was with proteins, and the top was fats.

Dr. Jordan 2:26
And so that means we, we should eat a base or more carbohydrates,

Dr. Williams 2:31
yep,

Dr. Jordan 2:31
then proteins, and then the small triangle on top a right fats. Okay,

Dr. Williams 2:35
And they did it according to how you should portion your foods. You should be eating a majority of carbohydrates with some protein and a little bit of fat. And so the food pyramid was, was pushed very heavily, marketed very, very heavily, particularly to the young, young people.

Dr. Jordan 2:51
I remember!

Dr. Williams 2:52
Yes, because this is about your time frame of growing up, and it was supposed to help people become healthy. Well, if you if you look at how healthy people were in the 70s and 80s versus how people healthy people are today, 2000s is significant difference. Yeah, we have 1/3 of our population is either pre diabetic or diabetic. We have obesity and epidemic portions as well as being overweight.

Dr. Jordan 3:18
And one thing is, you’ll notice in the literature, what that’s classified as is the standard American diet, which I think just ironic that it’s sad, and it’s a sad diet that’s got

Dr. Williams 3:30
acronym of S. A. D. Standard American Diet.

Dr. Jordan 3:32
And where are we at today with the S.A.D diet?

Dr. Williams 3:34
Yeah, it, it just has proven to be the downfall of the health of us as as a nation, because if you look at the at the chronic diseases, the top killers in the United States, one common factor is poor nutrition, which has led to obesity or or overweight. Yeah, and it’s been sad.

Dr. Jordan 3:55
So what was the problem with the there’s no problem with trying to educate the public, and I think on a base level, that’s probably what the government was trying to do. But the problem with the food pyramid is it wasn’t based or still isn’t. It isn’t based in science. Yeah, right, so eating a base of carbohydrates. Why didn’t that work?

Dr. Williams 4:14
Well, the reason it didn’t work is because they developed the food pyramid according to which foods were available and cheap at the time. And so wheat was very available and very prominent during the 70s and 80s. And so in the 90s, they said, let’s tell the people to eat breads and pastas as their primary source of energy. And so that’s the carbohydrate portion. And as we’ve led to eating all these processed carbohydrates, the body doesn’t respond well to it, and which has led to overuse of the pancreas and causes diabetes, as well as what weight

Dr. Jordan 4:55
Well and now, not just pastas and breads have carbohydrates, right? We eat carbohydrates in. And vegetables and fruit sugar. So, so what’s the difference? Why? Why are some good some bad? Why should we eating more vegetables and less pastas?

Dr. Williams 5:08
So now I wouldn’t necessarily say good or bad, but some are better than others, for sure. And so that was the big problem with using the food pyramid. It was hard to educate people that not all carbohydrates are created equal. There is a cauliflower is a carbohydrate, and so is candy, right? But there’s a quite a bit of difference between candy and carbohydrate, both in nutrition as well as in

Dr. Jordan 5:31
satisfaction

Dr. Williams 5:32
Satisfaction, yes, taste will always, will always give you but, but how it reacts in the body, okay? And that was a big that was the biggest, in my view, the biggest downfall to the food pyramid was not distinguishing between fats and carbohydrates and saying they’re all created equal. So it was a big problem for not the pyramid,

Dr. Jordan 5:51
not distinguishing between, like simple carbohydrates, simple and complex, right?

Dr. Williams 5:55
Right. So a simple carbohydrate is a carbohydrate that is that’s been highly processed, and so it processes very quickly in the body, right? So how fast a carbohydrate turns to sugar? Glucose is glycemic response. And when you eat a piece of white bread or a piece of candy, it turns into sugar very fast, where, when you eat carbohydrate, or a cauliflower, a cucumber, then it’s gonna take a lot of time in order to release that glucose, right? And so that causes a different physiological response in the body, which has to do with the insulin, which is the hormones that regulate energy sources.

Dr. Jordan 6:34
Energy sources. So it’s easy to say the food pyramid didn’t make any sense.

Dr. Williams 6:39
No

Dr. Jordan 6:39
They didn’t differentiate between types of carbohydrates. And that’s one of the big myths, is that all carbohydrates are created equal. So we can easily say that’s debunked. They are not the same.

Dr. Williams 6:50
Yep, right. And the food pyramid was finally fessed up to be a failure, and they changed it, turned it into the plate. The My Plate is way more accurate. There’s still food lobbying that goes on in the plate, just like it was heavy food lobbying in the food pyramid. It’s more science based than than the food pyramid, right?

Dr. Jordan 7:08
Good. Well, it kind of talks a little bit more since we’re talking about macros. That’s what those Mac macros are, basically what all foods are made of. So there’s three major macros, right? You have your carbs or carbohydrates, your proteins and your fats, yeah. And you talked about the 1970s a little bit. There was a little bit of a fad in the 70s, 60s and 70s, about fat free and synthetic fats.

Dr. Williams 7:31
Yep.

Dr. Jordan 7:32
And so we learned pretty quickly that fat free maybe wasn’t the best option, right, right? But that’s still a myth that you hear today, that you take egg whites only because there’s no fat there, or, you know, try and get the reduced fat or fat free because it’s going to be healthier for you. What’s wrong with that?

Dr. Williams 7:49
Okay, not to throw the government under the bus, but I’m going to throw the government under the bus again. So there was a big push for fat free, and it actually started with the American Heart Association in conjunction with the government, and they said, Let’s fats cause cardiovascular disease. That was the myth. And so then it developed, and this was even back into the 50s, and then in the 60s and the 70s, they said, Okay, how can we reduce cardiovascular disease? And the best way to do that is to reduce fat from foods. And so they started pulling the fat out of foods. Well, the problem with pulling fat out of the foods is nobody will eat it because it doesn’t taste just tastes very good, and so in order to make it taste better, they added sugar, yeah. Well, when you add sugar and you pull out the fat or a simple carbohydrate, simple carbohydrate, right? Which feeds into the food period, right? Then it causes a different physiological response. Again, so during the 50s, 60s, 70s, they said fat is the enemy, and we can get people healthy if we pull fat out of foods. And that is simply not the case. Again, not all fats are created equal. And they came up this wonderful idea that since saturated fats and polysaturated and unsaturated fats are bad, let’s replace those with something called trans fats,

Dr. Jordan 9:11
which is either one or the other.

Dr. Williams 9:12
That’s right, it’s a man made fat. It’s a and so they made margarine, and that was stable, had long shelf life, and they said margarine is healthy, better for you than fats, because then butter, right? Because butter is going to cause you to have cardiovascular disease. Well, we now know that’s a complete myth. That is not it is not true.

Dr. Jordan 9:35
So what’s the role in fat? Of fats in health? Now, you talked about the nervous system quite a bit, yeah, as a healthcare provider. So why are fats so crucial for your your body,

Dr. Williams 9:45
fats and cholesterols

Dr. Jordan 9:47
and clusters.

Dr. Williams 9:47
So we, we now know not, not all cholesterol is created equal too. So fats and cholesterols are essential for health. So the nervous system is primarily fat, your brain, your nerves. There’s a my. And sheath that surrounds your the the your nerves, that protect your nerves. So it’s like the insulation, and that’s fat based. And so we have to have fats, essential fats, right? And so the the push with the fats aren’t good for you, led to fat free. And during the 80s, fat free was a big thing. Those we could have, you could go buy a bag of licorice, of red vine licorice, and stamped right on the label was fat free, which translated to health food.

Dr. Jordan 10:31
This won’t make me fat

Dr. Williams 10:33
that’s correct, and the truth be known, it, it it did. It was worse than if it was loaded with fat. So one more thing on fat, the reason we don’t want to avoid fat is fat has it makes you feel full faster. It’s called satiety, how fast you feel full. And so when you eat fat, it makes you feel fuller. When you eat simple carbs, sugar, you can eat a lot, because you never feel the sensation of being full.

Dr. Jordan 11:04
I’ve experienced that before. I’ve had a big dinner at a restaurant. I feel just, I can’t have another bite. And then the waiter walks by and says, Do you want dessert? Yeah. And all of a sudden, my brain says, Yeah, I think I could fit a little bit more those carbs. Just, don’t just, you know, they kind of trick you a little bit to think you’re full. And all of a sudden, yeah, I could fit a little bit more, right?

Dr. Williams 11:22
And so you wouldn’t have necessarily had another piece of steak, right, because you were too full. But you’re not going to get the full sensation by having the chocolate triple chocolate cake,

Dr. Jordan 11:33
because when you mix a fat with a simple carbohydrate, that’s called yummy, delicious,

Dr. Williams 11:38
that’s what chocolate cake is,

Dr. Jordan 11:40
that’s right. And so you can get the fats are gonna make it taste better, and the carbs are gonna make your brain not feel as full, so you’re gonna continue to eat more of them, which is another trick that food industry is gonna employ to try and get you to eat more food and buy more food.

Dr. Williams 11:54
Yep. Another thing that they did to vilify fats is they said fats will make you fat. And the reason, and there’s some truth to that, because when you eat one gram of a fat, you get nine calories, right? When you eat one gram of a carbohydrate or one gram of a protein, you only get four calories. So they said if we cut fat out, it’ll give us a decreased chlorine intake. So it’s gonna help us to not be fat as a people, we’re not going to gain weight, right? And so we’re going to reduce calories. That’s, again, why the fat free became a healthy thing. So we need to understand that fats are essential, and that’s why we call them essential fats, right? We have to have some fats, but we have to be careful with fats as well, because they do have a higher caloric intake. And so if you get too many calories, you’re gonna

Dr. Jordan 12:43
So let’s talk about that. Now, talking specifically about weight loss, we’ll kind of move to that next myth, which when people are losing weight, sometimes, you know, I feel pretty good, but I just have a little bit of belly fat or a little bit of fat around my legs I don’t like, or, you know, you’ve heard everything. I just want to lose a little bit under here, right? So there’s this, this idea that if you eat certain foods or or do certain, you know, eat certain times a day, you can target those areas of fat,

Dr. Williams 13:12
yeah.

Dr. Jordan 13:13
Walk me through that. How does that work?

Dr. Williams 13:15
Another fun one is you can target fat by ex specific exercises as well. I can make my fat go away around my waist if I do abdominal workout. Well, that’s not true. When the body is utilizing fat as a source of energy, it doesn’t say, because they’re doing an abdominal workout, we’re going to take the fat from around the stomach and make that the energy source.

Dr. Jordan 13:38
Let me just debunk this completely. The body is very lazy.

Dr. Williams 13:42
Yes.

Dr. Jordan 13:42
It is going to take the first available resource of energy.

Dr. Williams 13:46
Yes.

Dr. Jordan 13:46
So the body does not say, Oh, well, since you’re moving your abs a lot, clearly we want the fat from the abs to be removed. That’s not how the body works. The body is going to say, I need energy. What’s the easiest and quickest energy I can get?

Dr. Williams 13:59
Yeah,

Dr. Jordan 13:59
if there’s a simple carbohydrate in my stomach, I’m going to use that first. If there’s not that, what’s you’re going to move to the next gas tank of energy until you’re using that fat as a main source of energy. But anyway, so, so we’re getting specific areas.

Dr. Williams 14:11
So you can’t, you can’t say I’m going to take a weight loss program that’s going to take the fat off of my abdomen. There’s not that does not work. You can’t diet a certain way to make the work. The fat come off a certain area.

Dr. Jordan 14:26
So then, why are some people, why do some people have more fat in certain areas, while others, you know, gain it in their their feet, right?

Dr. Williams 14:34
So you’re there’s different body types, and people are going to have a tendency to store fat where their body type tends to store fat. So you’ve heard of the apple shape, or the pear shape, or the pencil shape, so you can’t control that. What you can control is, how big is the apple? How big is the pear?

Dr. Jordan 14:55
And you know, we’ve seen this. So with Billings Last Diet, we’ve helped 1000s of people lose substantial amounts of weight, yeah, if you visit us at our in our brick and mortar building, and we’ll have some pictures posted online as well, you’ll see pictures of people who’ve lost 80, 100, 130, 150 pounds. And it’s interesting. You’ll see there a certain shape here. They lost over 100 pounds, and they still have the same shape. It’s just much smaller. And you know, that was something that that was new for me, debunked since I’ve been with Billings Last Diet the last three years, is seeing that people’s shape is more genetic based than actual habit based.

Dr. Williams 15:35
So some people will have a tendency to carry their extra weight that they get they’re stored their future weight, right, or their future energy around their hips or their thighs, some more on the upper body and and some more in the mid in the abdominal area. And so you just can’t target where. That’s where that’s at. Another thing that’s interesting when you when you see the wall of fame, we call it, it’s funny to see how somebody might lose a significant amount of weight, 50 or 60 pounds, and that doesn’t look a whole lot different. It does look different, but somebody might lose 20 pounds, and it looks like they’ve lost a whole bunch, right? And so looks make a difference. But what we really want is, how does that affect your health?

Dr. Jordan 16:18
It’s the health that’s key. Because yeah, and this is one myth that we weren’t planning on talking about today, but I want to bring up, there is no ideal weight. Yeah, there is ideal health. And most people get confused and say, Well, I’m, I’m five foot four in my 40s, female, and, you know, I What’s my ideal? And they’ll, they’ll do the the quizzes, online, all this stuff. And the problem with that is your your weight should be very personal, yeah, to your body and and to your age, into your age and your activity level and your circumstances. And so when you’re looking for a generic, ideal weight, you’re not going to find it. And that’s one problem people have, is, well, you know, I look good, I feel pretty good, I feel healthy, I’m active, I’m able to do everything I need to, but I don’t look like so and so on Instagram. Yeah, right, and that’s a big problem, is that the ideal weight myth is completely false, right? You have to know what’s ideal for you, not for your demographic,

Dr. Williams 17:16
right? I agree. I agree.

Dr. Jordan 17:18
So we talked a little bit about the next myth is talking about exercise, and you’d mentioned exercise in the abdomen and and a lot of people, you know, January 1 comes around and they say, well, I need to lose weight, so I’m going to go to the gym and I’m going to change my eating habits. And then what happens?

Dr. Williams 17:35
Yeah, so exercise and weight loss. Does it work? The answer is yes, okay, if you increase the amount of calories you’re burning in the course of a day through exercise, and it puts you in a caloric deficit, you’re gonna lose weight. The problem is this January group that’s gonna come up, that’s gonna hit the gym on January 1, and for the first this is my experience that I’ve seen is with a lot of dieters and a lot of people, is they’ll watch what they eat for the first two weeks in the course of being careful on what they eat and working out regularly, output, yeah, then they lose weight, which is great. After those first two weeks, they continue working out at the gym. And they say things like, in their mind, they’ll say, Well, I’m working out every day anyway, and so I can have the donut I can have the cheeseburger I can have. And so they stop watching what they eat, and what happens is they continue to work out, but what happens to their weight loss? It slows down and eventually stabilizes, right? So about week two or week three, they say, Oh, I’m not getting the results I got, because they’re not watching what they eat, but they’re still working out. So they’ll continue through the month of January. Some the really persistent ones, will continue through February, and some will even go into March and having still having stabilized their weight loss, not losing anymore. And they say, so this doesn’t work, right? And the answer is, it does work. So, can you outrun your fork? Can you out exercise your fork? The answer is, no, your fork is going to win every time.

Dr. Jordan 19:09
Well, and it’s pretty easy to see as well. You think of 500 calories. What’s that? An extra piece of cheesecake with dinner? Yeah, you know, I mean, that’s, I’m just gonna overestimate about 500 calories, yeah. How long is it going to take me to burn those 500 calories running on the treadmill?

Dr. Williams 19:27
Yeah, a lot longer than you think.And so we we have dinner tonight, and we have cheesecake. We have a piece of cheesecake for dinner. And depending on your cheesecake and what you put on, might be 1200 calories. And so you have that piece of cheesecake, and you say, well, since we had the cheesecake after let’s go for a walk after dinner, and we’re gonna walk off that piece of cheesecake. Well, if that cheesecake was 500 calories, how long do you think you would have to walk in? Order to walk off 500 calories,

Dr. Jordan 20:02
I’d have to do some math in my head

Dr. Williams 20:04
An hour? Two hours? Nah, you’re closer to four or five hours in order to walk off a piece of cheesecake. So just for an example, I’m a runner. That’s what I do for sanity purposes. So when I put my treadmill at a 7.5 for a speed which isn’t a walk, it’s not a jog, it’s a run. And I run for 30 minutes, my calories expended or used during my workout are calculated on my treadmill, and I burn about 500 calories. So so that means, after eating piece of cheesecake, I’m gonna go run on the treadmill for 30 minutes at a 7.5 in order to burn 500 calorie piece of cheese

Dr. Jordan 20:41
just to get back to New not to burn extra cuts just for that piece of cheesecake. So can you outrun your fork, or can you exercise for weight loss? The answer is a little bit mixed, yes, yes, you can, but it just doesn’t work the way you think it should work, right? And that’s one common myth. I like to say it’s because we’ve watched too many Rocky movies here in America. You know, you watch on a movie, someone go from a zero to a hero and a three minute montage, and you think, Well, I can do that same thing. You’ll see social media, you know, the young, Wimpy Kid, real small, he’ll go through his whole transition, or the big, heavy person who goes through their whole transition. You got to realize that transition is over years. Yeah, and they don’t talk about their diet, in that weight, in that journey as well. And I guarantee there were changes that they they made to the diet as well as the exercise.

Dr. Williams 21:31
So for listeners, just to give you a sense of what exercise and weight loss, how it works, let’s take two people, one person’s 150 pounds and one person’s 200 pounds, and we’re going to exercise them to lose weight. The exercise we’re going to do is a standard walk, walking pace of 2.5 miles per hour. So how long does it take for that person that’s 150 pounds? How long do they have to walk in order to burn one pound of fat, which is 3500 calories? And the answer is, more than you think. It is a lot more. It’s 16 hours of walking. You don’t believe it. Google it 150 pounds, 2.5 mile per hour walk. How long does it take to burn 3500 calories? It’s 16 hours. The 200 pound person is going to burn it faster,

Dr. Jordan 22:13
but they’re working harder they carry more weight

Dr. Williams 22:15
energy to so but it’s still 12 hours of walking. So you just need to understand how the concept really works, right? It does work, but it doesn’t work as fast or as easy as you think it should. So that’s why Billings Last Diet, we focus on what you eat or what you don’t eat

Dr. Jordan 22:29
on that diet portion. And let’s talk a little bit about that, because when you think about that’s this last myth we’re gonna talk about, is willpower and dieting and weight loss, right? And most people think, well, if I have to go on a diet, I’m gonna just deprive myself of everything I love, and I’m just gonna have to stick it out, you know, white knuckle, until I lose the weight that I that I want to lose, and then I can go back to what I was doing before. Yeah, so let’s talk about that. Is dieting strictly about willpower, or is weight loss strictly about willpower?

Dr. Williams 23:00
No, it does have a factor. And you, you have known people that have will power their way through weight loss. What happens? Very doesn’t last very long, right? Because there’s only so long that you can live a deprived life. You can deprive yourself for a period of time, but eventually your willpower wears out. And so the myth is, well, they just don’t have enough willpower, right in order to do it, or if they just had a little more gumption than they could do it, right?

Dr. Jordan 23:28
You’re not trying hard enough

Dr. Williams 23:29
They’re not trying hard, right? And so that’s a little short sighted. It’s so is there something about your desire to lose weight and your willpower? Yes, but it’s not everything. Right? Along with that willpower, you need a system that sets you up for success, and part of that system needs to be it’s not just a life of deprivation, that’s what people that’s why diet is a four letter dirty word to a lot of people, is because they think it means deprivation and and pain for a period of time. Yeah. And it doesn’t have to be that way. There are diets that are that way, but it doesn’t have to be.

Dr. Jordan 24:07
One thing I really love about our protocol building slash diet is there’s a list of foods that you can eat, yeah, that you didn’t even know existed. Yeah. And we have information and resources to show you how to cook in ways that you didn’t even know how to cook and love the food you’re eating through the program. And that’s the hard thing. Is, when people think about a diet, they think, Well, I just have to eat chicken and broccoli for three months and I’ll lose the weight I want, which you’ll lose weight. Yep, the problem is, the second you’re sick of chicken and broccoli, you go right back to what you were eating before.

Dr. Williams 24:40
Yeah, then the Oreos, they crack your bit.

Dr. Jordan 24:43
And so the point of weight loss, for me is not to lose weight, but to gain health, a lifestyle of health. And so, yes, the weight loss portion is crucial that’s going to help you reach your goals. That’s going to get to the point where you want to be. But in the process, there’s an education that takes place so that you’re not feeling deprived. Because, like you said, if you feel deprived long enough, eventually you’ll go back to what you were doing

Dr. Williams 25:09
One of our diet coaches, when they’re introducing themselves to to our potential dieters, they’ll say, what I’ve loved about Billings Last Diet is I’ve learned that I don’t have to feed my emotions with food. I can fuel my body. And there’s the lifestyle change that she has experienced is it doesn’t have to be about deprivation. It’s about being educated and understanding how your body works and how you can fuel your body so you can feel good all the time. And we just did a graduating class last night, and a couple of the dieters said, I didn’t know I could feel this good even while losing weight. Now, they’ve gone through the weight loss, the stabilization, and they’re in their maintenance phase, and they’re saying, I never want to go back. That’s what we’re looking for, is a lifestyle change that says I know now how to eat to keep this off for the rest of your life, so I don’t have to deprive myself for the rest of my life, or have willpower, right?

Dr. Jordan 26:06
So billings last night, we focus a lot on education. That’s why we’re doing this podcast. That’s why we want people to understand how weight loss works. Where can they go if they want more information right now before our next podcast?

Dr. Williams 26:18
So the best thing to do is go to the website, billingslastdiet.com you can get a lot of information there, but what we really want you to do is we want you to learn about how your body works. And so we we offer these free educational seminars where you can come and learn how your body works, how you can lose weight, how you can keep it off for the rest of your life. So sign up for one of our free educational seminars, and you can do that at billingslastdiet.com or you can, you can call the office at 406-294-6751, we’d be glad to help you understand how it works.

And so we’re based in Billings, but we do also talk about remote dieting, so we do have a recorded version of that as well. If you’re not in town, or if you’re from further out, you can absolutely give us a call. We can set you up with a recorded version of that and our social media, Facebook, Instagram, our YouTube channel, we’re gonna have more resources there as well. So like, follow and share and keep coming back. We’re gonna have lots more information for you.